Ipe Lapacho Bass Guitar

Ipe lapacho bass guitar

  • Nov-27-2011, 8:14pm#1

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    Thoughts on Ipe

    Hibdon Hardwoods recently put a new Ipe floor in one of their bays and had a bunch off cutoffs, I dug through them and picked out several that are well quartered and a beautiful chocolate color.

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    At $1.50 a pound I figured I would be able to use it for something, I'm thinking fingerboards. Any of you have experience with Ipe? What are your thoughts?
    Thanks.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 1:26am#2

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Dunno, my uncle dropped me some strips of ipe a while ago.

    Strange wood. From what I've read it's tough as nails.

    Mine is more of a greenish-gray color.


  • Nov-28-2011, 9:35am#3

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    I know it by a couple of other names, mostly as a wood used for decking and exterior uses.

    I've always suspected it ends up mixed with various similar exotics with similar durability and sold to builders for exterior use but I could be wrong about that. I don't know a genus and species name to nail down the actual species, and I don't know the "numbers" on it, nor where to find them.
    It seems pretty hard and dense, as you've undoubtedly already surmised, and that's about all I know of it.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 10:17am#4

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Some violin bows have been made from it apparently, if this is the same stuff I was told about.

    One of the Brazilian companies was making bows from it, I had one, and it was incredible. The problem with woods from South America is the large range of similar names that cover different species or sub species of a tree. Brazilwood is a great example. It was ALL Brazilwood a long time ago. Only recently have people been able to catalog the differences.

    Could be the same with Ipe?? It's hard to know if we're talking about the same stuff.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 10:38am#5

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    I made myself a souvenir penny whistle from a scrap of lumber I salvaged from a bridge repair at a Mexican resort my wife and I visited.

    I later identified this as Ipe.

    It's the best sounding and playing whistle I've ever made (out of over 450). Don't know how much of this is attributable to the wood, or just the serendipity of voicing the instrument.

    I do know that this wood is hard as all getout and very durable. They use it for outdoor construction because it's so tough. It's not the most exciting wood visually, being fairly uniform brown, but I'll bet it would be great for stringed instruments.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 11:27am#6

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    They use it for outdoor construction because it is durable in weather, meaning it is toxic to fungi, mostly.

    "Tough" doesn't count for much in terms of weather durability, hickory being an example of wood that is very tough but doesn't last at all well in the weather.

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    They use it for outdoor construction because it's so tough.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 5:09pm#7

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    I've used ipe for fingerboards, it's excellent.

    Easy to plane, finish, set frets into, etc. Any perceived weirdness in the appearance will vanish after a few hours' use.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 5:14pm#8

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Ipe and Paulope were the same thing as far as I could tell.

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    When I inquired about that I was told that the names come from the particular forest that it's harvested from. It is subject to end checking so the ends need waxed for storage or even use when used for decking, which seems to be mostly what it is used for. It's probably going to be really wet when it comes from the yard --and it takes a long time to air dry.

    I had some here that I stashed on a rack.

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    It seemed pretty dry after about 8 years. If you take a couple of pieces and tap them together they do have a nice high pitched "clack". I have wondered about their value as a tonewood. If nothing else you could make a dandy marimba out of it.


  • Nov-28-2011, 5:23pm#9

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    A major historical use is for dock pilings.

    It's heavier than water, and lasts forever in a marine environment. Nothing eats it, they just drive it into the mud and large ships can bang into it for years. Years ago I scored quite a few decking scraps and never had an endcheck or a twist.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 5:36pm#10

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    This is well dried, it's the cutoffs from the floor Hibdon milled and put in their own shop.

    I don't think it would look good for customers to see twisted floors in a hardwood suppliers shop.
    Thanks for the info.
    Paul, it looked & felt like it would be good for fingerboards, I'm glad to hear that it works well. Thanks.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 7:40pm#11

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    All that, plus it has oils in it which protect it from moisture and dessication.
    Before I knew what my whistle was made of, I just called it "Mexican Mystery Wood".

    Originally Posted by sunburst

    They use it for outdoor construction because it is durable in weather, meaning it is toxic to fungi, mostly. "Tough" doesn't count for much in terms of weather durability, hickory being an example of wood that is very tough but doesn't last at all well in the weather.

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  • Nov-28-2011, 8:17pm#12

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Genus is Tabebuia, usually T.

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    serratifolia. Common names are Ipe, Lapacho or Brazilian Walnut. Uses mainly as Paul describes above.


  • Nov-28-2011, 8:22pm#13

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    I have a gorgeous custom fretless acoustic bass guitar that was hand-carved by our own Orien MacDonald.

    (I met him here on the 'Cafe!).

    Orien used Ipe for the fingerboard. It's quite hard and has excellent feel and tonal qualities as fingerboard material. It's also a very attractive complement to the Western Red Cedar top and figured walnut back & sides of my bass. I'm very happy with the material so far.

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  • Nov-29-2011, 1:21pm#14

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    I'm in the middle of polishing a fingerboard made from a cutoff of mangaris, which I used to build a deck.

    At least I think its mangaris. At one point, the supplier stopped carrying it and I switched to Ipe, which had similar desirable properties and was dimensioned the same. Its natural color has been enhanced here by a wash of dilute black aniline dye, sanded off, then followed with maroon.

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  • Nov-29-2011, 2:38pm#15

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Speaking of leftover decking, I recently had a deck made of "tiger wood", which used to be called Gonsolo Alves, when (years ago) i was making musical instruments.

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    In the 80's, instrument-grade Gonsolo Alves was as expensive as cocobolo or Indian rosewood, and I do recall that it was occasionally used in musical instruments.

    The fact that it is now available as a deck-grade wood, and is plantation grown, strongly influenced my own choice.

    Your opinion on jatoba, ipe, and stabilized maple?

    Just as important, it was actually less expensive a choice than clear red cedar or yellow cedar.

    Tiger wood is hard, although not as hard as Ipe, (among the hardest of woods).

    It is also 1/3 less expensive than Ipe for decking. It has much more figure than Ipe, mostly black striations on a reddish/orange ground. A few of the boards possess a figuring I've never seen on another wood, which I'd describe as a diagonal checkerboard effect, slightly like lacewood or sycamore, but far less pronounced although more geometrically consistent.

    There were also some boards showing flame. I'd think someone would do well to try this relatively inexpensive hardwood on a mandolin or guitar. As decking it arrived at my house as 6" wide and 3/4 inch thick.

    Some of the boards were 16 feet long.

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  • Nov-29-2011, 4:11pm#16

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    and a pretty good golf swing I'd imagine...


  • Nov-29-2011, 9:58pm#17

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Several of the tonewood dealers sell goncalo alves (different spelling).

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  • Nov-29-2011, 10:22pm#18

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    Intersting thread; a couple observations:

    [QUOTE=Jim Nollman;991437]Speaking of leftover decking, I recently had a deck made of "tiger wood"

    I scored some nice figured "Tiger Wood" flooring a few years back, thought I'd use to cap an electric or binding or something..

    Looks a lot like KOA. Ended up framing my new window with 1/2 of it. Definately nice hard stuff !

    and from Barney59 " It seemed pretty dry after about 8 years "

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  • Nov-30-2011, 10:55pm#19

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    Re: Thoughts on Ipe

    I built a number of duck calls from Goncalo Alves (thats the spelling my wood dealer used) and it did well.

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    Machined well and had good tone. Would not naturally polish like cocobolo will, but it did take a finish.

    I could never get my hands on any tigerwood when I was building calls.

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  • Dec-01-2011, 1:38pm#20

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